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26 Nov 22, 2022
13:30 - 15:00 | Advalvas Arco B2B Router b2bgrid Babelway - Tradeshift Basware Billit Codabox connect solutions Descartes Digiteal Dynatos eConnect Edicom Esker Exact Ixor Nestoya Netropolix Octopus Pagero Symtrax Tradeinterop
| I.B2B update by FPS Finance II.Feedback F2F meetings 11.2022 III. Hermes Agreement Update IV. Backlog / AOB / Next forum | II. important to notice that introduction of PINT may require all current invoice receivers to support the global invoice model, which is a generalization of the current BIS. In other words, it will involve migration activities for all receivers while the benefit will not always be clear for all receivers (eg the ones having mainly domestic traffic). SPs are invited to think about (a) how it fits with their understanding of the business and (b) how they will help their customers in this. III. Deadline for comments agreed on 16.12.2022 IV. a. SPs are invited to submit topics proposal for upcoming SP forums IV. b MLR BISv2 use in B2G scenario since 2016: now fully stopped. BOSA assumes MLR BISv2 is NOT used in the B2B scenario. SPs are invited to inform BOSA if it would not be the case. IV. c. Backlog: B2B: Tax Administration to participate in an upcoming SP: done IV. d. Backlog: collection of SP sending and receiving capabilities: to be organized by PA – preparatory collection prior to possible discussion on forum. |
25 Sep 20, 2022
13:30 - 15:00 | Advalvas Agoria Arco B2B Router b2bgrid Babelway - Tradeshift Basware Billit Codabox Descartes Dynatos eConnect Edicom Exact Nestoya Netropolix Octopus OptiPost Pagero soluz.io Tradeinterop
| I.Update from Luxembourg II.Update on MLR-IMR III.e-Invoicing conference IV.Service Provider Agreement update V. Backlog / AOB / Next forum | I. Update on the e-invoicing track in Luxembourg given by Gérard Soisson - Ministère de la Digitalisation. II. The completion of the migration to IMR depends on the replacement of invoice senders old BIS MLR receiving capabilities by IMR receiving capabilities. Figures from Peppol Directory show that we are only 10% away in this process. From 16.11.2022 on, invoice senders who don’t receive IMR and only old BIS MLR, will experience a disruption of their invoice response processes. In the Peppol network it is up to the Service Providers to properly inform and support their invoice senders. III. SPs are warmly welcome to submit their candidacy to the e-invoicing award (in the category IT), and to suggest their customers who are active in invoicing to also submit (in the category entreprises). V. Backlog / AOB / Next forum a. Backlog: B2B: Tax Administration to participate in an upcoming SP b. Backlog: collection of SP sending and receiving capabilities: to be organized by PA – preparatory collection prior to possible discussion on forum. c. Next forum (26th edition): 22.11.22, 13:30 |
24 Jun 21, 2022
13:30 - 15:00 | Advalvas Arco B2B Router b2bgrid Billit Codabox connect solutions Descartes Digiteal Dynatos eConnect Ixor Nestoya Netropolix Octopus - Inaras OpenText OptiPost Pagero soluz.io Tradeinterop
| Agenda: I. Service Provider Agreement Update II. Backlog / AOB / Next forum | Service Provider Agreement Update
(a) History, current status and issues that may arise from delayed signing by SPs: cf slides (b) A SP reported delay with the Legal department in Canada most probably due to workload. No specific action from BOSA. (c) No other specific question or issue was raised impairing the resigning process at the SP side. BOSA concludes that signed agreements for all SPs will most likely be returned by July 1st; therefore, there is no reason to prepare for the unlikely scenario. 2. Backlog / AOB / Next forum (a) Next forum scheduled 20.9 1:30PM (Teams meeting) (b) Suggestion of the SPs to invite Tax Administration to interact on the possible upcoming B2B Mandate. Action: BOSA will contact Tax Administration representatives to relay the proposal. |
23 May 10, 2022
13:30 - 15:00 | Advalvas Agoria Arco B2B Router b2bgrid Babelway - Tradeshift Basware Billit Breex Easybox Codabox Dynatos Connect Ecosio Exact Inaras Ixor OpenText OptiPost Pagero soluz.io Tradeinterop UnifiedPost
| Agenda: I.Agreement Framework Revision II.Invoice response: IMR live since 10/03/2022 - Update III.Royal Decree – publications of IT solutions (B /G) IV.Backlog / AOB / Next forum Slides: | 1. Agreement Framework Revision (a) translation delayed – BOSA recommends SP to rely on English original for their internal preparation to re-signing, as the translation will match exactly. SPs haven’t raised issue with this approach. (b) PA SR comments received and processed 2. Invoice response: status update (a) Billit remark about wording of emails transposing IMR when receiver has not suitable RC’s: BOSA confirms it refers to IMR, not MLR – however some Gov entities are still sending MLRs (not yet migrated to IMR), which may get turned into emails too when the receiver has no MLR RC. (b) BOSA will investigate the feasibility of tuning such email body. (c) Billit will check if his remark matches this scenario. 3. Royal Decree – publications of IT solutions (B /G) (a) Anyone who can help, is welcome to participate. The initiative has been duly communicated and broadcasted. (b) The main priority is to help the senders. The vast majority of senders who will need help in the short/medium term, need tools to send invoices. Therefore the main focus of the list that Government must publish, is on such tools. (c) Link to the procedures : - NL version - FR version (d) Translation is not provided by BOSA. SPs operating in Belgium are supposed to be OK with FR and/or NL. 4. Backlog / AOB / Next forum (a) Upcoming change in CBE ID (0208) first digit : Billit to verify that schematron implementation matches the requirement and if not, issue request on https://openpeppol.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/1 (b) Your topics: synch issue SMP-Peppol Directory: - Known in the SP community, recommendation is to foresee retry mechanisms to overcome possible timeouts in the processing e.g. at the level of the push to Peppol Directory - Issue also reported today by UP to BOSA, is on its way to BOSA’s subcontractor (c) Next Forum on June 21st– please send us your topics. Thanks in advance for your constructive participation. |
22 Mar 15, 2022
13:30 - 15:00 | Advalvas Arco B2B Router b2bgrid Babelway - Tradeshift Billit Breex Easybox Codabox connect solutions Descartes Digiteal Dynatos eConnect Inaras Ixor OpenText Order2cash Pagero soluz.io UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Agreement Framework Revision Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in Backlog / AOB / Next forum
Slides: | Agreement Framework Revision New PA SR: SP community could be used as first place to discuss the issues some SPs face explaining the (too?) straightforward mechanism established by the new framework, to their customers Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in After due check, BOSA confirms that Hermes indeed returns BIS MLR upon reception of non-compliant BIS documents (schematron violation). Business rejections are returned as IMR if the invoice sender supports it, else as MLR due to the Belgian legacy context with respect to the use of old BIS MLR Backlog / AOB / Next forum Royal Decree: BOSA refers to the B2G e-invoicing Royal Decree. Cf forum 20 (14/12/2021), topic nr 2. explanations in slides
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21 Jan 25, 2022
13:30 - 14:30 | Arco Advalvas B2B Router b2bgrid Babelway - Tradeshift Billit Codabox Descartes Dynatos eConnect Edicom Exact Inaras Ixor Nestoya Netropolix Odoo OpenText OptiPost Order2cash Pagero soluz.io Symtrax Tradeinterop UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Agreement Framework Revision B2G e-Invoicing Royal Decree Hermes Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in Backlog / AOB / Next forum
Slides: | Agreement Framework Revision Each SP signs new agreement with the PA in which it is legally established. Annex 5 is replaced by PA specific requirements. It is not subject to separate signing Belgian PA will adjust practical details accordingly (ex: “APs” becomes “SPs” on 30/6/2022), including the organization of Belgian forum. Such adjustments should be as transparent as possible for service providers.
Peppol Communication: PA invites all APs to submit articles (already published or in the drafting / publication process) – id possible please communicate links instead of files. PA invites APs to also suggest other third-parties communicating over Peppol to PA. PA will extend the above invitation to such third parties Upon reception of such submissions PA commits to review and propose adjustments. Additional interaction AP-PA welcome. Purpose is to strengthen our common messages PA invites APs to provide their FAQs to PA
Varia: please note eDEC change: webinar scheduled February 4th 09:00CET to 10:00CET. To register: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6306258157748240144 Call for subjects for the next AP Fora, cf mail 18.1.2022
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20 Dec 14, 2021
13:30 - 15:00 | Arco Axi B2B Router b2bgrid Babelway - Tradeshift Billit Codabox Dynatos eConnect Exact Inaras Ixor Nestoya Netropolix Odoo OptiPost Order2cash Pagero soluz.io Symtrax Tradeinterop
| Agenda: Agreement Framework Revision B2G e-Invoicing Royal Decree Hermes Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in Backlog / AOB / Next forum
Slides: | Agreement Framework Revision SPs are invited to brief their prime contact (TIA annex 1, part 4.5) If need to change prime contact please issue an Annex 1 update and send to PA
B2G e-Invoicing Royal Decree SPs are invited to work together with BOSA to set-up supporting measures Clarification : granularity of invoice details (line item level): the applicable law does not give a clear cut on this. It is up to the sender to appropriately describe the goods and services
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19 Oct 26, 2021
13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas Arco b2bgrid B2B Router Billit Codabox Digiteal Dynatos eConnect Exact Inaras Ixor Netropolix Odoo OptiPost Order2cash Pagero soluz.io Symtrax Tradeinterop Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in Hermes Agreement revision Peppol Security Framework Backlog / AOB / Next forum
Slides: | Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in IMR: status acknowledged (AB): our implementation meets the IMR specification, that mandates responding an invoice with an invoice response within 72 hours. This invoice response may contain a status “AB”, but does not have to. eConnect is also available for IMR pilot testing
4. Peppol Security Framework APs are invited to reach out to SP Community leader to check on the possibility to participate to the workgroup on Information Security BOSA will also take contact to check when the request for participation would be sent within the SP community Main concern discussed is KYC – how to make sure that the people signing the contracts with SPs indeed represent the entities they pretend to. Such verification can range from quite simple to very complex. Automating it in full may not be feasible. And it is also not required. There is a trade-off to find between what is worth automating and what still must rely on manual checks. National contexts will also inevitably vary. Peppol promotes standardization but does not remove local specificities from day 1. In Belgium CBE offers relevant services (but not necessarily waterproof). Private companies active in the enterprise data collection and consolidation sector, may also offer valuable services.
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18 Sep 14, 2021
13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas Arco b2b grid B2B Router Basware Billit codabox Descartes eConnect Exact Generix Inaras Ixor Nestoya Netropolix Odoo OptiPost Pagero soluz.io Tradeinterop Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) MLR phase out, IMR phase in Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Hermes Old BIS Billing? Agreement revision Peppol Security Framework Backlog / AOB / Next forum
Slides: | Welcome to new forum participants/ Belgian SP: Nestoya 1. B2G Invoice Response and MLR Exact confirms availability for end to end test in test phase Q4 2021. Any other candidate to participate is welcome. PA invites APs to trigger the old bis (2.0) MLR phase out together with their invoice senders (inform, sensibilize, …)
2. CBE schemeID migration: can be closed. Remaining registrations under schemeID 9956 are assumed to be related to the old BIS (2.0) MLR, and thereby addressed within the topic above 3.Hermes:
4.Old BIS billing: it is up to the APs to sort out the issue with their own customer base 5. Agreement Revision:
6. Security: APs should receive an invitation to participate the workgroup through the SPC 7. AOB etc..:
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17 Jun 22, 2021 13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas b2b grid Billit codabox Descartes Digiteal Dynatos eConnect Exact Inaras Ixor Netropolix OptiPost soluz.io Storecove Symtrax Tradeinterop Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: What is on your mind? Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Hermes Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) phase out, IMR phase in Decommissioning old BIS Billing (2.0) Agreement revision AOB
Slides: | Welcome to new forum participants/ Belgian SP: Breex EasyBox, eVerbinding, OptiPost On your mind: PA specific requirements: to be addressed in topic When will e-Invoicing be mandatory in the Belgian public sector: Directive 2014/55/EU makes it already mandatory for European public-sector receivers Info: the new BIS schematrons:
Update progress on CBE schemeID migration: 100% register receivers using 0208 78% finished migration of their receivers to 0208 42% removed all 9956-based RC's – a breakdown per AP of entities still publishing 9956-based RC's was made available 93% of sending AP's prioritize 0208 75% of sending AP's stopped using 9956
Hermes: SP's are invited to communicate their questions and feedback related to using Hermes, that may lead to sending without having a sender or integrator agreement Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) phase out, IMR phase in: Support of code AB: IMR sender must send code AB (within 3 business days of invoice reception) AdValvas, eConnect and Exact have candidates for reception of IMR from pilot entities (public-sector). Additional AP's are invited to contact BOSA
Agreement revision: AOB: next meeting: 7.9.2021 13:30-15:00
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16 May 4, 2021 13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas Arco AXI b2b grid Basware Billit Brain2 codabox Digiteal Dynatos Generix Inaras Ixor Netropolix Odoo soluz.io Symtrax Tradeinterop UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Security Requirements Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Hermes Invoice response: old BIS (2.0) phase out, IMR phase in Decommissioning old BIS Billing (2.0) AOB
Slides: | Welcome to new forum participant/ Belgian SP: Odoo News on Peppol Security Requirements: the proposal is considered a good evolution. CBE schemeID: It is reminded to receivers (or their AP, acting on their behalf) to proceed with cleanup of their 9956-based SMP data as soon as possible. After 17.5.2021 such data become pointless an can only cause confusion/misuse, as the schematrons will block any document containing such code. Hermes: extending Hermes to support cross borders traffic (incoming to BE): poll results: 50/50. comments and questions raised: could make the Hermes decommissioning more difficult could also boost adoption could also be more consistent with cross-borders nature of Peppol. BOSA will take this feedback into account.
IMR@GOV, identification of parties: need to support issuerParty / recipientParty: poll result: yes: 0%, no: 20% ; don’t know 80% comment: Commercial acceptance should be the first focus (Paul) Old BIS(2.0) BILLING decommissioning: Next AP Forum on June 22nd.
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15 Mar 16, 2021 13:30 - 15:00 | Arco b2b grid B2B Router Basware Billit codabox Descartes Dynatos Exact Inaras Ixor Netropolix soluz.io Storecove Tradeinterop Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Hermes
Decommissioning old BIS Billing migrating MLRv2 to IMR (business)/MLRv3 (technical) AOB
Slides: | Welcome of our guest → Etat de Luxembourg and of our new AP's → Storecove and Tradeinterop. Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Statistics presented based on the forms filled in by the AP's. Moving forward with the migration. BOSA reminds APs to keep filling in the complete survey each month (takes 1 minute), to contribute to the efficient tracking of the migration.
Hermes Decommissioning old BIS Billing Last call before decommissioning. To the question on AP's being ready by 31.3.2021 to remove old BIS, none of the Access Point came with an issue on this. So everyone is confident the Old BIS BILLING phase out of Government will go smoothly.
Migrating MLRv2 to IMR (business)/MLRv3 (technical) on Mercurius Clarification over the limitation of the response codes to AP/RE during IMR introduction: it does not involve that the receiving system can be 100% sure that it won't receive other codes. The receiving system must therefore be able to handle the other scenarios (at least in a minimal way). no issue was raised with this clarification. MLR: to the question about the specification that states that parent document sbdh data must be referenced in the MLR (not payload data), no opposite opinion is voiced. BOSA will align mercurius with this spec.
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14 Feb 9, 2021 13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas b2b grid B2B Router Basware Billit codabox Descartes Dynatos Exact Generix Inaras Ixor Netropolix soluz.io Symtrax Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Hermes
Decommissioning old BIS Billing migrating MLRv2 to IMR (business)/MLRv3 (technical) AOB
Slides: | 1. Update progress on CBE schemeID migration It is reminded that the schemeID 9956 is removed in the Peppol BIS schematrons spring release. So it becomes unusable from 17/5 on. So it is a hard stop. It is communicated on the BE AP forum and through the release notes. further broadcasting of the new by APs to potentially affected stakeholders is welcome. SchemeID 9925 is out of scope - but bear in mind that Belgium PA discourages use of the VAT ID for routing purposes, as it is over-using this ID and is not sustainable. In Belgium, prefer rather the enterprise number. BOSA resends the january survey request to updated distribution list all SPs to fill in the survey each month (takes no more than 2 minutes time).
3. Decommissioning old BIS Billing It is reminded that Government will remove old BIS Billing Receiving Capabilities on 31/3/2021. 4. B2G - migration from old BIS (2.0) MLR to BIS (3.0) IMR/MLR AP’s provide their statistics to PA on MLR they receive - asap; by end of the week at the latest BOSA provides a description of the migration approach and timing based on the outcome of the discussion and the additional stats received
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13 Jan 12, 2021 13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas b2b grid B2B Router Basware Billit codabox Descartes Dynatos Exact Generix Inaras Ixor Netropolix soluz.io Symtrax Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Slides: | 1. Update progress on CBE schemeID migration The timeline initially agreed is CONFIRMED. No need to delay Milestone B. Each AP can put whatever is needed in place to suit his own context, such that the code 9956 can be removed by then. PA keeps monitoring progress through monthly surveys. To support data quality, AP's are asked to respond. Exact schedule of milestone B is 17/5/2021
2. Hermes Since Hermes/HSMP are LIVE, 10k participants were added on smp.belgium.be. This seems to confirm that Hermes boosts adoption. AP whitelisting (technical side of the Hermes integrator agreement) is in user testing. Expect more definitive status/info/news next forum. APs are enco.uraged to also consider signing Hermes integrators agreement, and contact us to this respect.
3. Decommissioning old BIS BILLING Decommissioning rescheduled to 31/03/2021. Do not expect any additional delay. BOSA will keep monthly monitoring decrease of old BIS invoices received by/transiting on Mercurius. 2/3 of these invoice are generated by less than 20 senders. That means 2 or 3 per AP. Please prioritize your communication with your senders.
Actions: All AP’s are requested to answer the SchemeID Migration questionnaire. All AP’s are requested to act upon the ask to "get out of BISv2". All AP’s can suggest a SME testimonial that could be used on e-invoicing website.
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12 Nov 24, 2020 13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas b2b grid B2B Router Basware Billit codabox Descartes Digiteal Dynatos Exact Generix Inaras Ixor Netropolix OpenText soluz.io Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Slides: | progression : cf slides discussion: consider more detailled approach proposed by Basware: Migration enablement / Migration / Migration Close in this approach spring releaase would coincides 9956 deprecation, and fall release would coincide 9956 removal. howeverBasware confirms spring release is technically possible. Some AP's confirm spring release remains possible AP's ask for clear deadlines
Conclusion: BOSA will(a) sharpen monthly questionaire; (b) work on communication/ AP survey to reassess migration timeline feasability 2. Short update given on the HSMP Migration Token Collection Interface and hrms activation / communication support - cf slides 3. Decommissioning old BIS billing (2.0) BOSA keeps communicating message and figures to SPs, to Regions
BOSA calls for relaying message to senders
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11 Oct 13, 2020 13:30 - 15:00 | AdValvas b2b grid B2B Router Basware Billit codabox Descartes Digiteal Dynatos Exact Generix Inaras Ixor Netropolix OpenText soluz.io Tradeshift UnifiedPost
| Agenda: Update progress on CBE schemeID migration HermesSMP - Migration Token Collection Interface test debrief BIS migration completion (V2 to V3) Call for success stories (SMB) Peppol Agreements framework Backlog AOB
Slides: | Update progress on CBE schemeID migration Call to action: SPs to answer the poll each month - NB: for the time being no answer will be considered as “NO”answer on all 3 questions Complication caused by concurrent activation of Hermes (15/11) and CBESchemeID migration (9956>0208) :
HermeSMP - Migration Token Collection Interface test debrief Decommissioning old BIS billing (2.0) Call for success stories (SMB)
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